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[3.X]

I wouldnt recomenned buying anything from there

[BiTzSam]

All the stats and prices have been balanced similarly to guns around their prices. Pdw sd is like the ab8 but with a much smaller clip and a freeze rate similar to the mp7, fal has the same freeze rate as the sten but with a higher firerate, lower clip and slightly longer reload, magnum has high damage, and is similar to the luger but with a bit more freeze and a longer reload. Etc

The stats will be posted soon

[Lazerlatte]

The only promising-ish looking gun in the place is the SVD. Is it any good?

[Ed12]

I remember when the M4 was under 10k...That's why I had it on my old account.


Guns are WAY to expensive! The starter pistol doesn't do much good for a new player now a days. They have to spend their first 100+ hrs farming sellables or PAY REAL $ to get started.

[BiTzSam]

Well i'd describe this shop as a mid-high range shop. Maccus was low-medium, g187 was mostly high range with a few cheap ones and then there was this one in between. Next shop will probably have cheaper guns. To those saying they're overpriced they're not. As i said they're priced based not only on their stats but also based on similar guns around its price.

I'd have loved to make these guns cheaper but because of the way previous guns have been priced they need to be similar so that guns dont start becoming better or worse than they're worth

[CoRR]

Well i'd describe this shop as a mid-high range shop. Maccus was low-medium, g187 was mostly high range with a few cheap ones and then there was this one in between. Next shop will probably have cheaper guns. To those saying they're overpriced they're not. As i said they're priced based not only on their stats but also based on similar guns around its price.

I'd have loved to make these guns cheaper but because of the way previous guns have been priced they need to be similar so that guns dont start becoming better or worse than they're worth

I like the attempt at consistency, but I don't agree with some of it. 50k for that one handgun? As I said earlier, you'd be better off getting the dual wielding pistols that end up at 11k and together pretty much have better stats.

Consistency is good, but it actually needs to be consistent. Half of those guns have too much freeze for their price. I'd say freeze plays a big part in things.

Sparers always talk about the importance of being able to dodge. The way they talk about it, dodging is everything. The way I think about it, even if you do 2 damage a shot, your enemy will go down first if they can't hit you. Even if you do 11 damage, that means nothing if you can hardly ever get the gun to hit and take several bullets every attempt. A sniper rifle in real life has the closest to perfect accuracy of any gun type. It also gives some of the hardest kick. To the point that most average men would be knocked on their *** just trying to shoot the thing. That's what you are trying to simulate with the sniper rifles you're selling. The only issue is that you cannot recreate the situation a sniper is so perfectly matched with. The range, the fluidity, the cleanliness, you cannot get that in a CQC situation such as graal. How does CoD do it then? The gun is adapted to match CQC. It's more portable, the kick isn't as severe, it's easy to use. Simulate that in to graal and that 100k+ you're charging is worth it. Maybe nine damage, more spread but definitely still compact, less freeze, 8 to a clip, 1 second delay between bullets. You could even take the price up a bit. 120-30k seems good for that.

[BiTzSam]

The guns sold there atm aren't really shifted towards sparring, id say the m1911 tac, pdw sd and skorpian maybe (havent tried using it on my ios yet) are the only sparring guns sold there. M1911 has almost identical stats as the sten just with a much, much smaller clip (7) and a slightly longer reload than most other guns. It also has abit more spread than it.
As for the snipers, in bases i think theyre great. I havent tested the svd but so far i love the m107. Its long barrel lets it shoot over a few walls and means the bullet has less distance to travel when shooting at people that are closer to you making it harder to dodge. I don't plan on removing its ability to shoot through walls unless it becomes an issue such as entire gangs using it which i doubt will happen. (Basically don't buy it just for the ability to shoot through walls because even though most likely it will stay that way theres still a chance). And to balance this it means its not good for cqc since you can't hit them if they're infront of your barrel. Which is how snipers should be. So i suggest using it along side a small gun like the tec9 or a shotgun.

And i dont think they have to much freeze, the 10 damage guns have freeze similar to the bars but like 0.01-0.02 more, the fal has a little bit extra freeze but thats because it shoots a bit faster. AA-12 i may need to buff by giving it an extra bullet and spread since even though it fires really fast the 6-7 damage isn't really killing as many people as it should. And the skorpian may need a buff, im not sure as i havent really used it but i think it may need a damage increase.

Finally you can't really expect all the guns to be perfect on release as they haven't had any player testing against other guns since I didn't really want to ruin any surprises so ill be playing around with them all seeing if they're all good. I'm 95% sure that there will be no need for any nerfing so you don't need to worry about that, however as i said above i may need to buff 1 or 2.

[RedBoy786]

I was personally going to buy the Magnum, but then again if you have a Luger which I did, there isn't a need to spend 100k on a good dealing 1 more damage, as it will take the same amount of shots to kill anyways.

I purchased one gun, which was the M107 sniper rifle (the one that is 110k). I would say it is definitely worth the money. As Sam previously stated, it's ability to shoot through walls makes it deadly in base. It also has a medium-low freeze rate, which makes it very easy to shoot with. Reload isn't too bad for a sniper rifle, it is similar to that of a BAR, although I'll test it more today. Now onto sparring, wow it is one hell of a beast in sparring! It'll probably take a while to get used to its freeze rate and reload, but once done it is very deadly. I noticed that if you trap your opponent in the bottom, you can quickly decrease there health by 12-36HP (it deals 12dmg a bullet), and with the combination of a high spread shotgun such as the Sawed-Shotgun, it makes it insanely powerful (once you get used to it, which usually takes quite a few losses xD). Its good in both hit timer and non-hit timer spars, although most effective in hit timer spars as spammy guns (most likely the BAR) will be easier to beat, if of course you can learn to dodge and shoot simultaneously.

[BabyGhost]

I kinda agree like when the ghost m4 came put 187k? Dayumnnn

Fun fact. The price of the Ghost M4 is priced after the name of the shop. 187 Guns, 187k. It's most likely done on purpose to make it a signature of the shop.

[BEAR]

They are pretty pricey and they all seem like other version of the m4. Basically the same damage and a different skin.